Classic First Post

Most first posts introduce the author and explain what the purpose of the blog is.  It seems like a good tradition, so I won’t break with it.

I’m Kyle Nuttall.  I grew up in rural Oregon, in the foothills of what’s called the Coastal Range.  I’ve lived in a number of different states, and Italy.  I went to college at George Wythe University in southwest Utah, and got my law degree at the University of Oklahoma.

I took my first oil and gas class during my second year of law school.  A couple things about that class fascinated me.  I’m one of those odd people that actually likes reading contracts, and oil and gas law deals with a lot of contracts.   Plus, it turned out that oil and gas law touched on a surprisingly large number of other legal disciplines; torts, property, Constitutional law, wills and trusts, corporations, federal regulations, taxes, state regulations, land use, municipal laws, even Native American law.  It appealed to my jack-of-all-trades personality.  I took every class the school offered on oil and gas.

While I was taking that first class I asked the professor what I should do to get into the oil and gas field.  He suggested I spend a few years working as a landman.  I also spoke with an attorney who was practicing in the field, and he suggested the same thing.  So while my law school buddies were looking for clerkships and summer intern positions, I tracked down a job working as a landman.  I worked for several years as a landman, and I enjoyed it.  More importantly, I learned about the oil and gas patch from the inside.

Now I’m a full-time oil and gas attorney.  Most of the people that come to me need advice about property (surface rights) and contracts (leases, ratifications, modifications, etc.).  It would be helpful for people to know something about it all before they talk to me.  So I’m going to do my best to put some basic property and contract law into plain English that the Average Joe will be able to understand.  There will be plenty of posts on other subjects as well.  But this is what will be the meat and potatoes of the blog.

Enjoy.

Kyle Nuttall

Is that Oil and Gas Lease a Scam?

One of the most common questions I get from mineral owners is, “have you heard of XYZ Oil Company?”  I get calls from California to New Jersey to Florida.  They’re people who had no idea they owned minerals because they inherited them, so it sounds too good to be true.  In this modern world, too good to be true is usually just that.  Surprisingly, I haven’t run across a scam where someone represents themselves as an oil and gas company to mineral owners.  However, if it’s not happening now it will happen in the future, so some due diligence research is in order.  Here’s how I would go about figuring out if I’m dealing with a reputable company.

Get the Oil and Gas Leasing Company’s Name

It won’t be hard to find out what company you’re dealing with.  When the landman contacts you for the first time, one of the first things he’ll tell you is who he represents.  (If he won’t tell you who he works for, tell him to get lost.)  The company’s name will be all over the paperwork, too.

Sometimes the landman will be working for a lease broker. Lease brokers deal in title issues and leasing, and turn their work over to developers.   It’s OK.  It’s common.  In fact, when I was a landman I only worked for lease brokers, and worked on projects for several different companies.  Just make sure you know who the lease broker is working for.

Also, find out where the company is headquartered.  Many of the large companies are based in Oklahoma, Texas, and other states.  If the landman doesn’t know this, he or she can find out for you.  They’ll be glad to have an excuse to call you back.

Research the Oil and Gas Company

With name (or names) in hand, head to the internet.  Of course, you’re going to want to check the forums here on MRF to start with.  Here’s a quick search tip: in Google, type “site:www.mineralrightsforum.com XYZ”.  Replace XYZ with the name of the company you’re researching, and don’t include the quote marks.  Google will bring up only hits from MRF, and you’ll be able to see quickly what people are saying about that company.

If you’re dealing with a large national or large local company, a quick Google search will turn up the company website with a phone number and address.  If it’s a smaller local company there sometimes won’t be a website, but you should at least be able to find them in the phone book.

Don’t call them quite yet.  The next step is to go to the West Virginia Secretary of State’s Business Organization Search page.  If a company is organized or licensed in West Virginia, the information will be there.  You can find out where they’re based and how long they’ve been around.

For those companies based in other states, look up the Secretary of State’s web site and call the main office.  You’ll probably get bounced around a bit, but the time will be well spent.  Ask how long that particular company has been in business.

Research the Landman

Now that you know the leasing company is real, you should check up on the landman.  One phone call to the company will tell you whether he or she works for them.

At this point you can stop, knowing that you’re dealing with a real company and one of their actual representatives.  But if you want to push it a little farther you can try to figure out what their reputations are like.

Additional Oil and Gas Leasing Research

Check out the landman.  While there are a couple forums out there that try to rate landmen, there are so few landmen listed (as of June 2013) that they’re just not helpful.  A Google search is still worth a try just in case your landman is listed and has a really bad reputation.  And if you get involved on the forums I’ll help you find below, you might find people who have had dealings with your landman.

Check out the company.  Unfortunately, there isn’t a centralized database for complaints and compliments.  You’re going to have to rely on what can sometimes be pretty unreliable sources of information – internet forums.

Do a Google search for “West Virginia oil and gas” to get you started.  I’ve also found that a Google search of the company name and the county where your mineral property is located (“Antero Harrison”) will usually bring up a local forum or two where you can contact West Virginians who have real world experience with the company.  That’s how I found www.mineralrightsforum.com and www.gomarcellusshale.com.

If that doesn’t give you any good results, try replacing the company name with that of another company (Chesapeake, Range Resources, EQT, Dominion, etc.) and you should get some results that will lead you to a forum.  Once there, you’ll have to get involved on the forum by asking questions about your particular company.   It may take a while to get an answer.  Mineral owners seem to be pretty friendly and helpful with each other, but those from West Virginia don’t always seem to be extremely involved in the internet.  You’ll find more Ohioans and Pennsylvanians on the internet at this point.

A word of warning about forums.  Anybody can post anything, so take everything you read on a forum with a grain or ten of salt.  What you’re looking for is not a perfect reputation, but a general sense that they’re in the business and actively working to do their job.

You can also get in touch with the Office of Oil and Gas in Charleston.  They only have complaints about environmental issues, but it’s something.  A long line of complaints from a diverse set of people is a big red flag.

You would think you could go check with the Better Business Bureau, but lots of real oil and gas companies are not accredited with them, e.g. Chesapeake Appalachia, Antero Resources, Energy Corporation of America, and Mountain V Oil and Gas.  Those are some pretty well-known and established companies.

Best of luck in the oil patch!